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Real Actors, Real Issues, Real Answers By SETH NUMRICH
On December 12, 2003, drama students had the opportunity to engage in a
discussion with four alumni of Juilliard's acting program: Stephen Henderson,
Derek Smith, Enid Graham, and Robert Sella. "These are four award-winning
actors who have good careers, yet at the same time, they have led lives that I
think are very normal for the acting profession," explained Michael Kahn,
director of the Drama Division, who introduced them and moderated the
discussion. "While they have real actors' success stories, they have faced
real actors' issues—and I want you to have the chance to talk to them about
what it's really like."
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| Stephen Henderson (Group 1) talks with drama student Chris Mowod after the panel discussion.
(Photo by Jessica Katz) |
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Mr. Kahn began by asking each of them to talk a little bit about their
experiences immediately after school. "Other people in my class immediately
did plays in New York—at Manhattan Theater Club or wherever—but I think it was
right for me to go and do plays with regional theaters, to get more confidence
in myself as a professional actor," explained Ms. Graham, a member of Group
29. "When I graduated, I felt like I was still a student; it took me a few
years to achieve the confidence to walk into a room and say 'you should hire
me, and if you do, I'll do a good job.' Once I started to feel that in my own
heart, I think I started to have more success." She has since appeared in
numerous regional and Off-Broadway productions, and has been seen on Broadway
in Dinner at Eight, Fortune's
Fool, and Honour
, for which she received a Tony nomination. She recently starred in Paula
Vogel's The Long Christmas Ride Home at
the Vineyard Theater.
Mr. Henderson (Group 1) talked about his five seasons at the Loretto Hilton
Repertory Company in St. Louis (now called the Repertory Theater of St.
Louis): "It was the greatest thing in the world to be employed as an actor in
that company. That was where I really became reconciled with myself, and
decided that this was the life path that I would take." He is currently
appearing at the Biltmore Theater as Sammy Bow in Regina Taylor's
Drowning Crow (based on Chekhov's The
Seagull), and teaches at the State University of New
York at Buffalo. His Broadway credits include Ma Rainey's Black
Bottom and King Hedley II
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His first year out of school, Mr. Smith (Group 14) worked with the Acting
Company (called the Juilliard Acting Company in its very early days). "I went
into the company right away, and it was terrific for that year because, after
being here for four years, acting every day, I'm assuming that a lot of people
get out and just don't work—you don't get to act, you don't get to try
anything you've learned. The Acting Company was just a year of performing. At
the time, I didn't think it was a good thing, but when I think about it, it
was so wonderful doing that for my first year out of school." Mr. Smith's
Broadway credits include Timon of Athens,
The Government Inspector, Jackie
, The Lion King, Getting and
Spending, Ring Round the Moon
, and The Green Bird, for which he was
nominated for a Tony.
"I sort of thought that I would be 'Shakespeare guy,'" said Mr. Sella (Group
29), who talked about his experience of exploring the world of musical theater
after graduating. "You know, I thought that I would go out and hold my spears
in a company for a while, maybe move up to a couple of lines, and then just
keep going up. But right away, I got into this big, loud Broadway musical ...
and it turned out to be wonderful." He continued, "It's nice to have as many
tools in the drawer, that you can pull out for any different job, as you can."
He appeared as Prior in the Angels in America
national tour, a role that he also undertook as a student here at Juilliard.
His Broadway credits include My Fair Lady
, Sideman, and replacing Alan Cummings as
the M.C. in Cabaret.
With this question out of the way, Mr. Kahn opened up the floor to the
students; giving us a chance to talk to the performers individually about
anything and everything we had on our minds concerning what it's "really like"
out there. The hands sprang up like weeds. We soon learned that Mr. Sella and
Ms. Graham have been a couple since their time together at Juilliard, and are
still going strong. This raised questions among a few students about what it's
like to have a relationship or a family while trying to pursue a career as an
actor. "It's hard," Ms. Graham admitted. "I did find that there was some
benefit to it; I was really young when Robert and I met, and I think there was
some good, having time apart—being together, but apart. Of course that can
also be a disaster. We just visited each other a lot, talked on the phone a
lot … I don't think I would ever want to go back to being away from each other
for 22 months at a time, but we got through it."
"I also think it helps to have someone else in the world with whom you share
similar goals," Mr. Sella chimed in. "It's very important for us to find ways
to be together … but we're also very work-centered, and our work is important
to us." Ms. Graham continued in agreement: "And I can understand why Robert
would want to go off and do Angels in America
… I would never ask 'Well, why would you want to leave and be away for so
long?' I'm just like, 'Of course, go play that role; how wonderful,' you know,
and that helps."
Mr. Henderson also had a few things to say about having a family as a working
actor. "Personally," he began, "I really did need a partner; I needed someone
who had their feet on the ground ... If you can find someone with whom you are
really willing to try your hardest to make a relationship work, it's the
greatest thing in the world. And you have to get very unromantic about it,
finally; if you work together, you can build it together. So I think that it's
really a help to you if you can find someone. And then, things get even more
meaningful when a child enters the picture."
Eventually, a question arose that is always a burning issue for actors:
unemployment. James Seol, a third-year drama student, wondered how one deals
with periods of unemployment, or working for very little pay. Mr. Smith
responded: "Hopefully, you've had a job that has paid well in the past that
allows you to do a play now that you believe in, that fills you somehow—and
you can afford the $200 dollars a week because you've worked hard to save
money on another job. I've never done anything else besides theater, but I
certainly have depleted savings through periods of unemployment or little pay."
"Before I came to Juilliard," said Mr. Sella, "I lived in L.A., and—it's sort
of embarrassing to say—I just wanted to be on the cover of TV
Guide; I just wanted to be a TV star. The reason I
came to Juilliard is that I saw myself driving around one day to an audition
at Paramount or something, in my regular costume for auditions—which was, at
that time, big, black glasses with tape around them, a pocket protector with
lots of pens, pants with a belt up to here," gesturing to his stomach, "and a
retainer. And I just looked at myself in the rear-view mirror and I thought,
'I might get this, and then I'll be Urkle forever, or I'll be Gilligan
forever.' That's not to say anything against people who choose that path—but I
came here because I wanted to see if I could really be an actor. I wouldn't
change anything about my life in the theater, I think I've had wonderful
opportunities, but I think that it does start to wear on you when your great
job that you love, that you fly to every night, only pays you $200 a week, and
you're living in New York City. And many of my friends who have gone the other
route, pursuing television and film work, have said, 'Yeah, it's wonderful to
have a big house and a pool, but every day, I have to go in and do something
that I actually think is rather miserable.' And sometimes those things are
hard to decide."
The conversation about making choices as an actor eventually grew into a
broader one about defining for oneself what the actor's craft means, and where
one sees oneself in it. Fourth-year student Nels'on Ellis asked when the four
actors had thought they had found their path in the profession, and how this
realization came about.
"I think it's a fantastic question," Mr. Smith responded, "and I think you
should know that you will have this question 10 years from now, 20 years from
now—always. I am only beginning to make peace with the fact that I can't
define it. You know, you're not going to go into a law firm next year and be
there for 40 years, and then retire—that's just not the path. It's something
that always ends. No matter how famous you become, it still ends; the movie
ends or the play ends, and then you're looking for work. People are going to
try to define you, and you are going to
try to define you. All I'm saying is that I'm starting to make peace with the
fact that I need to continue to define it every day. I feel the same way now
that I did 20 years ago, asking 'what's next, what do I do?' ... and actually,
it's been nice for me to be able to say, 'I don't have to figure it out; it's
never going to go away—the end."
Mr. Sella concluded: "I think there's a lot of noise on the planet now, in the
modern time, not just for actors coming out of school, but for all of us.
There are lots of ways that we can look around and decide that we're not tall
enough, or we don't smell as good, or we shouldn't be like that—there's all
kinds of bombardment all the time. I think that, in all areas of your life,
it's worth your while—and it honors you and what you are essentially inside—to
continue to remind yourself that having some sense of pride or happiness,
wherever you land, is the goal. Because you really never know what's going to
happen next. The wonderful thing about this career that has its lows as well
as its highs is the unpredictable, 'roll of the dice' quality of it that is so
about living, and is really the truth about the way that we live. We never
know what's going to happen next. So all of that noise that is constantly
around you—do your best to tune it out. Try to listen to yourself and ask,
'What do I want to do?'"Seth Numrich is a first-year drama student.
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